Forum:Delete All LOLCATS

Today, June 16, 2010, several users agreed to the proposition of getting rid of every single LOL-Cat-related article on the wiki, with the exceptions of Serious Cat, his minions, the Philly Cheesesteak Test, and some other articles that are approved. Of course, this a rather controversial subject.

So, as such, your votes will decide whether it happens!!

Reasons to Delete LOL cats
Please read before you vote!
 * 1) To many users, they are annoying.
 * 2) Most admins hate them.
 * 3) They have nothing to do with Club Penguin.
 * 4) Often flame wars, spamming and even banning are caused by people arguing about them. While this is not a real reason to ban them, it would save our admins from alot of headaches.
 * 5) They were already supposed to be illegal. If they are illegal, then logically there is probably a good reason why they are banned.
 * 6) LOL Cats belong on a different wiki. There are already LOL cat wikis] that people can use where they can write about LOL Cats in peace. If there is another wiki for them, why use this one for LOLcat spam?
 * 7) LOL Cats have no real continuity, and articles that have hardly any are deleted. If LOL cats have almost no continuity, why keep them?
 * 8) Face it, cats eat birds. LOL cats are no exception. Cats won't stop at nothing to get birds. So logically they would prey on penguins. Why do some treasure these creatures and even go to the extreme extent of spamming to "protect" them?
 * 9) LOL cats are often used to spam. It happened to this wiki once, and it will likely happen again if they are allowed. While I have nothing against LOL cats, I do not like it when they are used to spam our wiki. Who in their right mind would support something that could cause the downfall of this wiki?

Reasons NOT to delete LOLcats
Please read before you vote!
 * 1) To some users, they are epic.
 * 2) Lots of stuff is out of universe. (Hannah Montana, Mister Bean, Billy Mays, Bill Gate$)
 * 3) We parody stuff form different wikis. No one removes that.
 * 4) Falme wars come up when I (Sheep) talk. Am I banned from talking? No. (LOL, he should be.)
 * 5) LOLcats eat birds or something like that? In response; I would like to see a housecat that could take down a penguin! And anyway. Penguins eat fish, so why keep penguins, eh?

Voting system
There will be two sessions of voting. In the first session, users will decide whether the LOL-Cat articles will be deleted or not. That lasts for 5 days. After that, users will suggest which articles should be spared. In the second session, which lasts 4 days, users will vote over each individual article and whether it should be spared or not. After the second session, the purge begins!

= VOTE = Make sure to provide a reason!

Session 1
Should the LOLCAT articles be deleted?

For (9)

 * HECK YES. They're unrelated, pointless, and they cause lots of fights.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  No... you can't escape Benny.  )   View this template   20:16, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * As Explorer says, HECK YEAH! They annoy me, they annoy me, and they annoy me. And they cause lots of fights. DOWN THEY GO! --Austin8310 - HIYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAA!  20:17, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Of course. LOL cats were supposed to be banned but are now making a comeback thanks to the Anti-MOOCE, Corai, Ben Hun and Akabadboy. I wish to remove this disgrace forever. E-114 and Corai's arguments use many logical fallacies (I study logic) and do not help show us why LOL Cats are GOOD, just trying to make us scared of what visiting users would think, even if LOL Cats should be banned.--Error 404: Signature not found. Possible reasons why this may have happened are: 1. A evil group has deleted it, 2. Serious Cat might have brainwashed the user into removing it, ect, ect. 00:48, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, great use of logic there, XTUX! I commend you.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  No... you can't escape Benny.  )   View this template   15:48, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're beating a dead horse here. Like I said earlier, LOLcats is old, tired meme-spewing garbage that belongs on /b/. You'd get flamed to no end if you put it on /b/ anyhow, since LOLcats actually ripped off 4chan's cat images and made them look even stupider. HURRRRRRRRR I CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER DERP.
 * Oh yes, and before anyone starts quoting rules 1 and 2 at me, please know that I could give less than a crap about /b/ as it is merely a board full of prepubecesant 14-year olds who found out about 4chan because one of the popular kids at school were talking about it.  http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill    T   C   E    20:25, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL. So true...--Austin8310 - HIYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAA!  20:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry Ben. They have GOT to go. --Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 20:34, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Definetly go. They don't belong there. -- Eternal Magma    Complaints ahoy!  10:35, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * They're pointless and unrelated, get 'em outta here! --[[Image:Sk8itbotsig.jpg|200px]] 10:36, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Everybody knows that I was probably the first (or one of the first) to object LOLCATS when the situation got out of hand in the beginning. A bit fat yes for about all of them to be banished from the Wiki. They are just completely pointless - literally, they have no reason to be here - why waste you're time importing stuff from other websites over here? They have absolutely no reference to cats in Club Penguin - do they? Or am I just crazy?... they are sort of annoying and Ben Hun has just been wasting his time and using precious edits on them (along with some other users too). And like some others have been saying, they have been causing rows - especially with me and Hun. They are absolutely a waste of articles and a pity excuse for edits. They are only a tad funny - and that's only the pictures! The article itself isn't even funny... I hope I've made myself clear, and I've read the excuses to keep LOLCATS in the Against section and most of them are not strong-enough reasons to keep LOLCATS - there are more reasons to get rid of them - people just keep repeating the same excuses in the Against section (except for TurtleShroom)... so I hope you've understood the many predicaments that LOLCATS caused - especially with Hun. I rest my case here. -- [[Image:N-Sig.PNG]]  ¤   (  User page! ) (  The Cookie Master, bow! ) 16:43, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete some, not all. A l e x 0 01   (eliminate my loneliness ⊘ respond to my annoucements ⊘

Against (8)

 * Lots of articles technically have nothing to do with CP. E.g. Hannah Montana, Mister Bean, Billy Mays, Bill Gate$. --ZE SHEEP! (That sheep is staring at me ) 20:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hannah Montanna does not exist. Billy Mays and Bill Gate$ are too ingrained in continuity, but we COULD just turn them into parodies. And they don't cause lots of fights, either.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  No... you can't escape Benny.  )   View this template   23:18, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Humans, mushrooms, snails, buildings on clouds. If Ben Hun wants to have lolcats and finds a way to insert them into continuity, why not! I don't like lolcats but I don't mind having them here. What I do mind is another pointless rule to add to our overly long list of rules that nodoby follows anyways for being so long <font color="#FF0000">Dancing <font color="#B22222">Penguin  20:43, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I promised Ben Hun back in that Crisis that I would spare Fail Cat and allow the current LOL-cats, like Sir Kitteh, to exist, but that any future attempts and duplicates would be forever redirected and/or deleted. I will never back down on my word no matter how much I hate the items. Due to my promise, I feel that LOL-cats should remain, but no new ones should be tolerated. That being said, you should also consider sparing Sir Kitteh, and you MUST spare the Cat Arch, as it is part of Philly Cheesesteak. -- † TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †    :)  :) We've got diem to carpe. † 21:02, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

*I agree better with them staying. No offense intended. 21:31, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * If this passes, MOOCE is a hater group to Ben Hun only, and that will make out wiki look bad, amiright? thats why I deleted it in the first place, its other purpose is to hate Ben Hun, now think about that being its main purpose. --E-114  Message center  23:41, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read the top section again.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   15:44, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * TS made a promise, he will breka it if a single LOL-Cat is deleted. Plus, if MOOCE goes Ben Hun hater, it makes us look HORRIBLE. "Oh look...MOOCE, whats this? Ooh this si what users make when there angry at someone? Im nto joining this if this is what they do!" is what I would say. I am Corai. '''<sup style="background-color: Cyan; color:Red;">MY HEADS NOT BIG! 00:25, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Read the top section again.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   15:44, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * HOW CAN YOU BE AGAINST LOLCATS?! THEY'RE CUTE, FUNNY, quite pointless though, but over all WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THEM?! To the 5 people who are for this bill, DRAT YOU!!! -Der Pigma 20:32, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * lOl. They may be cute and funny, but some users here think they are so important that it is worth starting a failfest, getting banned, and causing overall chaos just to "protect them". Plus they start to get annoying when they're spammed all over the wiki.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   01:40, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * If Ben Hun can integrate them into continuity, they can stay.--Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS- Haud secundus chances, EGO sum ut typus of vir.. 08:04, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * He hasn't done that yet, now has he? (And I really doubt that will ever happen, they cause so many fights most people won' bother.)  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   15:43, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't hurt him or his articles! <span title="MINE! NO TOUCHIE!"> Yours PWNingly, <span title="KingH10's Userpage: Templates, Articles and more!"> KingH10 ;^)  <span title="Talk 2 da 1 'n' only KINGH10!!!"> She said please! I have to help her now!  <span title="MAI BLOG!!!"> My Blogs!  <span title="CLUB PENGUIN!!!">Play KingH10's Favourite Online Game! 08:08, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral (2)

 * I really am not too sure whether they should go or stay. They are not really penguin-based (but I think Serious Cat can stay), but... I'm not so sure what's making me neutral here. There you go. -- WikiBlueDude  was   here!  00:13, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

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 * Same with Alex. Delete some, not all. 10:57, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * If both of you had read the top, you would have known that we ARE deleting some, not all. You can nominate articles to be spared and then the Masses will decide whether they should go or not.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   12:37, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know that, but I just want more cats to be saved. I like cats and dogs. :) A l e x 0 01   (eliminate my loneliness ⊘ respond to my annoucements ⊘ view my character ⊘ talk to my character) 13:41, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then nominate more cats. That's the best you can do.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   13:48, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw the top after I typed that, I think. -- WikiBlueDude  was   here!  13:49, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

 * You can suggest articles-to-be-spared here.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   20:16, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * MOOCE better be deleted too. The whole thing is just people yelling about how much BH sucks. They're lucking I haven't already deleted it. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 20:18, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can Anti-MOOCE stay if MOOCE stays? 20:20, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anti-MOOCE is Pro-LOL Cat, so it must be deleted. However, MOOCE may stay as they could become just against Ben Hun instead of both Ben Hun and LOL Cats. Besides, you can't delete it, Turtleshroom, BOSS XeXeXe and other famous penguins are a part of it.--Error 404: Signature not found 20:23, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * XTUX, Anti-MOOCE can be configured to have nothign to do with LOL-Cats as well, and it does NOT matter if famous penguins are in it, every famous charecter ever can eb in ti can ti can be deleted. I am Corai. '''<sup style="background-color: Cyan; color:Red;">MY HEADS NOT BIG!  20:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anti-MOOCE must stay. 20:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, no, Corai. Plus, MOOCE is a HQA1. I would not delete a HQA1. --<font color="darkgreen" face="Comic Sans MS">Austin8310 - <font color="darkgreen" face="Comic Sans MS">HIYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAA!  20:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anti-MOOCE can only stay if it stops supporting LOL Cats--Error 404: Signature not found 20:28, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both MOOCE and Anti-MOOCE. They're LOLcat garbage. Unless you rewrite the plots on both of them, but not sure if that would work because they're used in several articles. <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    20:31, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * @XTUX: MOOCE better not stay. I will be forced to take action. Just cause some characters are in it, does not mean that it can stay. If I were to make a big page saying "JOIN IF YOU HATE (Insert user here)", it would be deleted. MOOCE is no better. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP!  (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 20:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I consent to the deletion of MOOCE. It is really a hate group directed at Ben Hun, not LOL-Cats. I will withdraw my character now, but not his funding. -- † TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †    :)  :) We've got diem to carpe. † 21:04, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Even though the Rules say not to talk about "B", Zone can do it. He's Zone. -- † TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †    :)  :) Remember, NEVER talk about "B". AACK! I'm talking about "B"! Stop it, stop talking about "B"! † 21:52, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * TS, you do know that you can nominate some of the articles to be spared? That way, you can keep your promise to Ben.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   23:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * It said on the page's top that MOOCE will NOT be deleted.--Error 404: Signature not found 00:08, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm surprised Ben Hun hasn't seen this forum yet - its a Christmas miracle =P <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    07:21, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * (I have half a mind to go and tell BH...) Anyhoo XTUX, weather the top of the page likes it or not, MOOCE is still just a big anti BH group. I quote myself: "If I were to make a big page saying "JOIN IF YOU HATE (Insert user here)", it would be deleted." It's true and you know it. I know what it means to be hated (a lot of people used to hate me, some still do), and it's not nice. Having a page made proclaiming to the world how much people think you suck is even worse! --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 10:41, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * To be honest I'm surprised anyone still wants them here. Yes, they may be in continuity, but we already noted that at the top, otherwise, LOLCATS are not made by us, stolen from another website, nothing to do with storyline, not canon, so I don't see the need for them. -- Eternal Magma     Complaints ahoy!  10:44, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Sheepman; If that "I have half a mind to go and tell BH" comment was directed at me, you realize that what I said was a joke right? <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    11:01, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * yeah. So was mine. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 11:03, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't tell him, we may end up saddled with another failfest -- prematurely.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   12:40, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Sheepman; My apologies for misinterpretating. <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    12:49, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * You know, I think this is kind of pointless. I mean the wiki isn't allowed to have more lol-cat related articles, so the problem's already solved. Unless there is a slurplus of Lol-cat articles (and if there are, bring a list, which aren't redirects) Citcxirtcem   BAAAAAWW to me!  see my edits! 17:07, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ban Seep from talking as he causes flame wars! LOL just kidding.--Error 404: Signature not found. Possible reasons why this may have happened are: 1. A evil group has deleted it, 2. Serious Cat might have brainwashed the user into removing it, ect, ect. 17:45, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

You couldn't change that to make sense, could you? Cos I have no idea what you're on about. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 19:04, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh, I study logic. Corai and E-114 use fallacies. Sheep might...but I only studied it for one year. Plus, E-114 annoys me. I say "Anyone who rants about LOLCATS gets banned for a day and he goes "LOLCATS! Okay, ban me." No offense, but that's the type of logic Corai, E-114, and Sheepman does. And plus, Corai uses LOTS AND LOTS of Red Herrings. Even Sheepman's above comment is a red herring!  Ooh this si what users make when there angry at someone? Im nto joining this if this is what they do!" is what I would say. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER LOLCATS STAY OR NOT. --<font color="darkgreen" face="Comic Sans MS">Austin8310 - <font color="darkgreen" face="Comic Sans MS">HIYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAA!  18:03, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sheepman, better get back to those logic books if you wish to understand him. I understood him right away!--Error 404: Signature not found. Possible reasons why this may have happened are: 1. A evil group has deleted it, 2. Serious Cat might have brainwashed the user into removing it, ect, ect. 19:10, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I understood the first part perfectly fine. But what does "Ooh this si what users make when there angry at someone? Im nto joining this if this is what they do!" mean? --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 19:22, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sheep, Austin is quoting Corai who is using a logical fallacy and Austin is pointing it out.--Error 404: Signature not found. Possible reasons why this may have happened are: 1. A evil group has deleted it, 2. Serious Cat might have brainwashed the user into removing it, ect, ect. 19:25, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * To some users, they are epic. So how does that make any difference? Are we going to allow LOL-Cats to thrive and decrease the site quality just to prevent some of the users from ranting their heads off? Lots of stuff is out of universe. (Hannah Montana, Mister Bean, Billy Mays, Bill Gate$) Again, how does this make any difference? Just because there are a lot of people who smoke doesn't mean that it's okay to smoke. The same applies here. We parody stuff form different wikis. No one removes that. There's a difference between parodies and straight-out importing. Falme wars come up when I (Sheep) talk. Am I banned from talking? No. (LOL, he should be.) You ruined your entire argument in the last sentence. Just because you aren't banned from talking doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULDN'T be banned from talking. The same applies to LOL-Cats. And anyway. Penguins eat fish, so why keep penguins, eh? You eat food. Let's ban you. In fact, we should get rid of ALL of us by that logic.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   19:36, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I was giving counter-arguments, aimed to be stupid to make fun of your ones. You might want to check what YOU said before being so smart. The "witty" counter arguments you gave, could be changed slightly and directed at some of your own points above. The rest, I will counter myself.

Your Point - Your argument (slightly edited):


 * Most admins hate them - So how does that make any difference? Are we going to allow LOL-Cats to be deleted just to prevent some of the users from ranting their heads off?


 * Face it, cats eat birds. LOL cats are no exception. Cats won't stop at nothing to get birds. So logically they would prey on penguins. - You eat food. Let's ban you. In fact, we should get rid of ALL of us by that logic.

'' Again, how does this make any difference? Just because there are a lot of people who smoke doesn't mean that it's okay to smoke. The same applies here.''

I'm not saying it's ok, I'm saying that if we delete the LOLcats (LC for short) we should delete all that stuff too.

''...ruined your entire argument in the last sentence. Just because you aren't banned from talking doesn't necessarily mean you SHOULDN'T be banned from talking. The same applies to LOL-Cats.'' But we all know that it is agionst the UNDHR to ban me form talking. Anyhoo, I put my argument badly, a better way to phrase it would be as follows. LOLcats are good (in some peoples opinions), right? But sometimes, they cause problems. These problems are caused when people complain and say "Delete all LOLcats" and other people say no. Human error not LOLcat error! Wars are started over land. Does that mean we destory the land? No!

''LOL cats are often used to spam. It happened to this wiki once, and it will likely happen again if they are allowed. While I have nothing against LOL cats, I do not like it when they are used to spam our wiki ''

Ok, first of all, this is not about what you like or not. Second, I have a ockey stick that could be used to kill people with. Does that mean I have to get rid of it and not play hockey? Nope. Just cos you can use something for a certain use, does not mean it is the things only use. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 20:24, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Cats eat birds You didn't do your homework, Cats only hunt and kill things that are a challenge (Mice are small and swift, birds can fly, and most rodents are fast). My cat only kills mice, but it does not attack crippled birds (Ones that can't fly). They hunt for challenge and pride, if they are domestic that is. Cats that live in the wild will do this for food and for pride. LOLcats aren't wild cats, there domestic. --E-114 Message center  20:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Most admins hate them - So how does that make any difference? There's a reason most admins object. Go ask them yourself. I'm not saying it's ok, I'm saying that if we delete the LOLcats (LC for short) we should delete all that stuff too. Fair enough. That doesn't mean we SHOULDN'T delete LOLCats, however. But we all know that it is agionst the UNDHR to ban me form talking. Anyhoo, I put my argument badly, a better way to phrase it would be as follows. LOLcats are good (in some peoples opinions), right? But sometimes, they cause problems. These problems are caused when people complain and say "Delete all LOLcats" and other people say no. Human error not LOLcat error! Wars are started over land. Does that mean we destory the land? No! Okay then, let's see you prevent human error from ever happening. Make Ben Hun shush, stop all those wars, and make peace among the land. If you can't do that (and clearly it's a virtually impossible task), the other option would be to take away the other causing factor -- LOL-Cats. (Or, we could ban Ben. But you wouldn't like that, now wouldn't you?) Just cos you can use something for a certain use, does not mean it is the things only use. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean we can just sit here and let users spam the wiki repeatedly with LOLCats. Sure, they can be put to good use, but since no one's doing that and right now all they're doing is causing trouble, why not get rid of them?  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   20:42, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Look, I have a;reay thought of counter arguments, but we're not changing each others opinions here, so let's stop the argument. It's pointless. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 20:45, June 17, 2010 (UTC)