User talk:TurtleShroom/19

Why?
Why do you always edit the articles I create? I mean, I ain't saying no one can edit them, but why is it always YOU? Or is it with everyone? Well, I'm glad you like Roger Lopez. And if you want to edit another one of my articles, edit Hornietail. --Harry Potter books rule! 08:30, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay..
I sent you a message on Archive 18, telling you to archive your talk. But I also was telling you about an idea. It's good that you archived it but..I kinda need a reply about that idea. -- '''Metalmanager  talk page   contributions  09:56, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Your IRC issue
TS- I think I fixed your IRC flags. Sorry to bother, but could you come back on and see if it worked? Thank you! :)

-- Hat Pop  Bunny Ears Rule! 01:09, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT
If you edit every article I make, can you expand my article Hornietail? I'm a little lazy to do it... --Harry Potter books rule! 10:49, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Message from ChordSectorθ, alias Evolutionπ
I have come back to this wiki edit specific articles on this wiki pertaining to the classification of specific animals. The first article—of which was in an exceedingly long perception of a suggested progressive medium referred to as "time"—that I have managed to edit addresses the modern classification of a group of mammals once referred to as pinnipeds. Please read the talk page of the article titled Walrus (species) and report this information to other exceedingly active members of this wiki. I would do this myself, but I have not edited this wiki in a while, and other users may not recognize me.

—◔ChordSectorθ◕ 16:49, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hi.
I wanted to tell you that I got an Entei,which I nicknamed "ITBURRRRNS",a Raikou and a Suicune which I nicknamed "OVER 9000!"-- 12yz12ab  Talk to me  Edits Contribs 01:51, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

I totally agree!!!
I forgot to say this before but, I totally agree! Jesus did love us so he died for us! I can't see how other people can't see that. --''' Will k!!!  Hate me? Love me? Tell me here! ''' 23:20, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Shipping
ZOMG KATAANG

ZOMG ZUTARA

ZOMG KATAANG

ZOMG ZUTARA

ZOMG ZUTAANG

ZOMG KATARA

ZOMG GIANT FRIENDLY MUSHROOM

SDKJFHSDKJSDJFDLJFLSJFLSDKFJFDSKDJFKF

But seriously now. You wanted me to explain the two cartoons in more detail?

Well, "Kataang" is the name of the relationship between Katara and Aang, and "Zutara" is the relationship between Zuko and Katara.

The first cartoon depicts Aang and company about to face Fire Lord Ozai (main antagonist)... and then Sokka spots the shipping wars...

The second one has General Zhao (a general in the Fire Nation Navy) spotting more shipping wars (noez) through his telescope.

The shipping wars on Avatar are so infamous, in fact, that the creators of Avatar themselves made a short called School Time Shipping. Kataang and Zutara are both referenced in it, but the writers went for a non-sequitur and paired Katara with the Blue Spirit (Zuko's alter-ego). I have no idea why.

So... yeah. That's Avatar shipping for you, not that I'm an expert on such things, but whatever.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( ALL HAIL THE FRIENDLY GIANT MUSHROOM  )   View this template   22:00, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Small Dispute
Me and MM were having a dispute. Anyway, I'd like you to settle it.

MM wants all the characters (Agent (Spy), Doctor (Medic), Weighty (Heavy), Private (Soldier), Explodyman (Demoman), Fireman (Pyro) and Ranger (scout) to be in a video game. Group Castle 2. However, I think thats unoriginal and that they should be In Universe, like literally existing in universe instead of in a video game.

Thoughts? --Austin8310 - YA-HIHIHIHIHIHI!!! -Lit. 23:12, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Mini-Project: Hierarchies!
Hey, TS. I was reading the article on Mandy Mortis (EXCELLENT job, BTW), and I got some inspiration for a little mini pet project we could work on -- writing out the hierarchy of the BoF.

Here's what I've planned. We'll work on two hierarchies: the administrative hierarchy of the entire Bureau, and the administrative hierarchy of the Masters, which is part of the Bureau's hierarchy. In addition, we'll write out the process of writing a story and editing the universe, in flowchart form. We'll also explain all three of these in text form, for clearer detail.

Here are my ideas for the hierarchies and story-writing process.

The hierarchy of the BoF should go like this:


 * Masters (top level) -- Oversee all Departments through direct command to Bureaucrats (heads of Departments); in control of all Bureau decisions through indirect command cascade down from Bureaucrats
 * Board of Bureaucrats -- Oversee all Departments through direct command to Sysops (heads of Offices), handles inter-Department affairs, may veto decisions by Masters via 7/10 supermajority vote
 * Sysops -- Oversee all Offices within each Department through direct administration to subordinates, handle inter-Office affairs
 * Workers (bottom level) -- Do trivial tasks, such as maintenance, machine operation, data management, physical hands-on work, etc.
 * Moose in Black -- Take direct command from the Masters and Board of Bureaucrats to cover up traces and evidence of the BoF, either with threats or birbes. They are very loyal and fierce, but humane, at the request of the Masters.


 * Fourth Wall -- By default, writes stories by editing the universe. Is subject to retconning by the BoF.
 * Universe -- Subject to editing and control by the Fourth Wall and BoF, the latter being more dominant.
 * Spacetime Anomaly Array -- Array consisting of black holes, wormholes, white holes, and other spacetime-continuum anomalies that captures and stores Wutt Energy from the Fourth Wall. When directed by the BoF's supercomputers, they release pulses of Wutt Energy and amplify them, refining the transmission's clarity. They then direct the transmission into the universe. It's basically a giant wand (see Magic).

The hierarchy of the Masters goes like this:


 * Author -- Analyzes drafts from the Fourth Wall and edits them to insert literary devices, conform to a plot, and correct policy violations. Administrative function: directing and coordinating all the other Masters.
 * Narrator -- Takes generalized manuscripts from the Author and edits them for more interesting grammar styles, sentence and paragraph structures, and the needed moods and atmospheres. Administrative function: assists the Author in directing and coordinating the other Masters.
 * Director -- Repeatedly reviews drafts and media from the other Masters, removing policy violations along the way. Administrative function: keeping all the other Masters in check and in conformation with the BoF's policies.
 * Illustrator -- Accepts requests from the Author and Narrator to draw images and visual media for stories. Administrative function: Heads the Departments of Imagery and Animation.
 * DJ -- Accepts requests from the Author and Narrator to create sounds, music, and other auditory media for stories. Administrative function: Very little, though the Board of Bureaucrats and some of the other Masters are working to create a Department of Audio for the DJ to direct.

The process of writing a story goes like this:


 * 1) The Fourth Wall analyzes previous events and extrapolates, writing what logically would occur next. A network of modified Doinkometers installed inside the Fourth Wall and connected to its very workings copies the outgoing transmission of Wutt Energy pulses, converts it to binary, and sends it to the BoF's master supercomputer to be interpreted as programming language, then English (very simple and broken English, that is).
 * 2) The Author receives a transcription of the Fourth Wall's draft and edits it to conform to an overall plot, as well as correcting the broken English. The result is a general description of what should happen next in the story.
 * 3) The Author's manuscript, along with some author's notes, is forwarded to the Director, who evaluates it even further, checking for policy violations and fairness. Changes are highlighted, and then the  manuscript is forwarded to the Narrator, along with some director's notes.
 * 4) The Narrator evaluates the manuscript, changes, and accompanying notes, then writes a rough draft of the story, complete with mood and atmosphere, literary devices, and interesting grammar styles and sentence and paragraph structures. The draft is sent back to the Director, along with some narrator's notes.
 * 5) The Director re-evaluates the draft for policy violations and fairness, then sends it back to the Narrator with more notes.
 * 6) The Narrator uses the notes to revise the draft. The revised draft is then sent back and forth between the Narrator and Director to refine it until it is of acceptable quality. The Author may assist in the revision process at certain points.
 * 7) Once the draft is made final, copies are sent to the Illustrator and DJ. They then create accompanying media for the story -- images, animations, sound effects, and music. The media is sent to the Director and a board of critics for evaluation, then incorporated into the final draft.
 * 8) At last, the final draft is fully played out on the Narrator's Organ. The draft is forwarded to the master supercomputer, which splits it into two copies. One copy is stored in text format and forwarded to the Archives to be kept as a log. The other copy is translated back into detailed programming language, then into binary. The supercomputer forwards the information to the Spacetime Anomaly Array, which fires off a corresponding transmission of Wutt Energy.
 * 9) The transmission edits the universe, causing the needed changes and the advancement of the story. The Fourth Wall analyzes the events that have been caused and writes a draft of what should logically happen next. The cycle repeats.

Where you come in -- since you have a flowchart-like generator (you know, the thing you used to make the Governance's hierarchy diagram), you can generate the diagrams and flowcharts needed.

Or I could do that in Office 2007... we'll figure that out later.

And you can also provide feedback and ideas to make it more realistic and bureaucratic. Please do so when you reply!  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( ALL HAIL THE FRIENDLY GIANT MUSHROOM  )   View this template   01:04, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

In reply:


 * The Fourth Wall, as you may recall, is a supercomputer. Underneath that thick brick wall is an overly complicated system of Wutt-Energy-conducting materials (don't ask me for the specifics) that form a huge computing system. It would take some delicate work, but Doinkometers COULD be installed inside the Fourth Wall like you install something inside a computer, given adequate tools. (Or, the Masters could be lazy and cause Doinkometers to pop up there like magic. =P)
 * The Fourth Wall is not writing spontaneously. It is incapable of starting a plotline. All it does is analyze events that have just happened and figure out what should logically happen next. It's not sentient, but it is a supercomputer. However, since it takes a lot of computing power to do that, the Fourth Wall will only choose the simplest sequence of events possible, which is why it writes horrible stories.
 * You're right, Benny is extremely biased. However, the layout I gave you is the way it's SUPPOSED to work. In reality, the checks aren't so much for fairness as they are for the preservation of Benny's interests.
 * Office 2007's SmartArt isn't helping... I'll have to lay it out manually with textboxes and AutoShapes. =(

 Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( OBEY YOUR PROPELLER LORD! MWAHAHA  )   View this template   22:03, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I has the original hierarchy generator
If you want it, ask. --Zapwire (dial the waaaambulance) 22:20, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
It was the one that came with Office 97, pretty sure of it. I still have it on a hard drive. Next time I start the PC, I'll see what I can do about uploading it. Maybe a screenshot if I can get one? --Zapwire (dial the waaaambulance) 12:42, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Welcome Message
Hey TS,

I was just surfing the wiki when I saw that Wikia welcomed a new contributer, I looked at their talk and saw that it listed users that can help. I also noticed that my username wasn't on their. I can't seem to find the correct welcome template to edit, so I need you to edit it for me.

Please and thank-you! --Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 11:12, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Uh yeah. Our current one isn't very good. Happyface is gone, E-114 is barely around, I think Metal deserves a spot and I'd really like one. I'm good with new users.--Austin8310 - YA-HIHIHIHIHIHI!!! -Lit. 11:14, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

So am I.--Error 404: Signature not found. Possible reasons why this may have happened are: Not found. 13:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm a new user
Hi

I'm Xtux's sister. I'm new on here and I'd like some advice on how to be a great user. I'm also a Christan :) --D 21:16, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

We need a BOSS reinstatement
Hello TS,

As you probably know now, Spy Guy Pers has rejoined the wiki. He used to be a (at the time when it was called this) Sysop. I believe he deserves a reinstatement, at least to rollback.

Thank You,

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 11:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

SUCCESS! SUCCESS!
Hey, TS! As promised, Aviator G now has an article. SUCCESS!

His real name is Gil, and he's basically your classic comic relief sidekick, always messing everything up. He's also obsessed with waffles.

So go read up on everyone's favorite clumsy Waddle G. It warms his heart.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">SUCCESS! SUCCESS!  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   21:27, July 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * P.S. HAND OVER THE WAFFLES AND NO ONE SHALL BE INCAPACITATED!
 * P.P.S. CHECKMATE! I WIN THE WAFFLES! SUCCESS! SUCCESS!

Revamping of the South Pole Council
Dear TS,

I would like to seek your permission in a revamping by me of the South Pole Council article. I would like to split Judge Xaiver and the South Pole Capitol from the article, as topics about the council should only have relation to the delegates and not the venue, or the main information about the Leader of the council.

Well, about the Capitol, I think it could be modernized (with glass facade,enterance, and an atrium) and also three levels, and the Capitol could have three wings. The West Wing could contain an Executive Meeting Room, where the Council's committees could meet on the first floor, then, a library on the upper two levels. There could also be a North Wing, where the Delegate's offices are located. On the first floor could be the Private Lounge that was previously in the West Wing. The upper two levels could be for the Delegates' offices. In the East wing could be the Chamber,where the desks could have icePads in them, for an electronic vote. There could be a large 178 inch plasma television at the front of the chamber.There could be a large atrium in the intersection between the three wings.

The Council could also vote electronically, instead of the them collecting ballots, which is a waste of time. There could also be a small meeting room for the City Council as well. The Council's tables could have microphones as well.

Please respond, -- Sanchonachos Welcome aboard.  19:45, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb Fanon Wiki
Hey TS,

I have something you would love, THE PHINEAS AND FERB FANON WIKI! I know you love Phineas and Ferb and Fanon, so this would be great. I need help with it and know you are great with new wikis.

Thanks,

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 20:00, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Repromotion
Hello TurtleShroom, I noticed in the PRRRROOOMOOOOTION...log that users returning were being repromoted. The Leader now has sysop powers (Explorer) and you gave Spy Guy Pers his powers back. If you read my newest blog post and its comments, I have been "rooted" to be repromoted. I believe that because I'm here before EVERYONE ELSE I'll be able to delete spam/nonsensical nonsense pages, block vandals, make maintenance edits, etc.

Please reply on my talk page.

Thank you,

--   Pyro       <span title="TALK, COWARDS!.">Spy sappin' mah sentry!   <span title="WHAT HAVE I DONE?!.">sentry down!  22:30, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Edit problems
Hi Turtleshroom, I had problems about editing my homepage but I saw a message from Director Benny that I needed to confirm my email,so I confirmed it. Unfortunately, when there was a blog about this "Beta Crisis 2010", I typed a comment about how did the beta thing happened by typing the website to show them, and suddenly my comment got blocked by Benny and I got mistreated and I didn't know it was bad. Eversince I got in trouble here, I can't edit articles because Director Benny blocked it. It was a misunderstanding situation, please tell the owner of this wiki or Benny that I did not know so I can edit articles freely. I just came here because CPW was getting boring and CPFW looked cool. Plz help.---Mcmuffin98 01:54, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Zeus
What do you think of my new article, Zeus?

Oh, and if you could can you add the appropiate quality template on it?

Thanks.

-- Iamred1  Talk! 16:23, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Help meh :3
I'm gonna make a hong kong phooey parody a quirky alternate self of Tails, I might need help with this......PLUS I need help for his puffle sidekick (parody of phooey's sidekick) could ya help? he just catches people other than dr. aye-que but a parody of many of the original show's baddies like Mr. Trnado, and DAr. nowhere and more :3 Tails  6000  16:34, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

RE: I need your help...
Sounds like a plan, TS!

And I just realized something: Agent Meltie is the Vanessa parody. Not exactly a goth, but still evil. (Only reason I did that is because we already have a Candace parody.) And then maybe my characters could get involved in that, and it'd be a BUSTING FEEDING FRENZY! ''Busting feeding frenzy, stay outta the water! It's a busting feeding frenzy, stay outta the water!''

 Yours Truly,  <span title="No, I'm not signing autographs."> RS ( <span title="Talk to me or I will call Mabel in to send hate mail!">Hey Mr. Wonderful!  )

About IZ
I don't get NickToons, sadly. Although I managed to catch a few at my grandma's.

Also, I'm kinda over it. It's good that you like it and all, actually, CONGRATS! You know enjoy an epic TV show!

And don't worry, my childhood was quite similar to yours. It SCARED THE LIFE OUT OF ME.

I remember, four or five years old, my mom would turn on Nickelodeon, I'd watch for a minute, and either throw up or run around screaming like an idiot.

It was quite humorous.

 Yours "Untruly",  <span title="No, I'm not signing autographs."> RS ( <span title="Talk to me or I will call Mabel in to send hate mail!">Hey Mr. Wonderful!  )

Something Random And Stupid (That I think you should watch anyway)
The new Phineas and Ferb, Summer Belongs to You, in my opinion, is going to be awesome. Or, was it the bagel?

Anyway, you are going to fall head over bagels-I mean heels-as you watch the spectacular spectacles of

PHINEAS AND FERB ANIME AS WELL AS.......

CARAMELLDANSEN!!!!!!!1

The song is called JPOP/Welcome to Tokyo.

<span title="LOOK AT THE BIG HONKING WEEGEE ZIM!"> Yours "Untruly",  <span title="Or, was it the bagel?"> RS ( <span title="But I need tacos! I need them or I will explode. That happens to me sometimes.">Hey Mr. Wonderful!  )

P.S. Oh, and BIG HONKING WEEGEE ZIM IS HERE.

It shall plunge you into a Nightmare World in which there is no awakening!

Why yes, yes it is.
Do you have Disney XD? If so, it's in the new special, Summer Belongs to You!

Oh, and did you see the Big Honking Weegee Zim (last link)?

It's scarier than that nightmare I had where Zim was chasing me with a chainsaw.

O_O

rocket slug (time to rock!) 18:11, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Remove me from BOSS
I'm no longer Sysop; please remove me off BOSS. Also what's are my powers and do I get AG restriction? Am I a Rollback or something? -- Firmato per Il Dirigente  Conversazione verso Il Dirigente  17:38, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

I need help
Hello TurtleShroom,

I started a wiki, the Phineas and Ferb Fanon and I need help. I also need a Code and a government. I know you are good with new wikis, and I need help. So please, join and help me get it going.

Please, Please, Please!

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 19:33, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Explanation
Kay. So, the character's a Snoss Anti-P.O.P.E. And one of Swiss Ninja's generals/friends. He's not evil, but he's definetly not the guy you want to hang out with. Characteristics of Austin with a nasty mindset. After all, he is the ANTI-P.O.P.E. So, his company isn't that good (only supplying to West Pengolia and the Ninja Archepelego), and he's out for his own gain.

BTW, he's Nevel's nemesis. Can't get better than that. --<font color="blue" face="Comic Sans MS">Austin8310 -<font color="darkblue" face="Comic Sans MS">YOU MAGGOTS! -<font color="blue" face="Comic Sans MS">Private Eastshield 02:09, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

My Signature
That's easy. The answer is called a template.

Bask in its awesome glory.

All you need to do is insert all the desired code in a template. If you want a signature whose message you can update every now and then, like mine, use parameters like shown in my signature. There's no limit to the amount of text you can put in a template, so go wild.

When you're done customizing, insert the template call " " into the signature field in your Preferences. For example, mine would be " ".

Have fun. =)  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">Your citations are clearly broken!  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   23:05, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. If you want to know how to actually make pop-up messages appear when you mouse over text, I'll show you that too. Mouse over this and you should see a pop-up message appear. You do that by inputting the code " <span title="{insert pop-up text}">{text} ". In the case of my example, it would be " this  ".

RE: Old Spice, The Man Your Man Could Smell Like
My associations with Anonymous are small, because I think the whole LOL ANON IS LEEJUN EPIC WEEN /b/ is a joke. If anything, I am on 4chan's /a/ and /v/ boards. I'll probably leave them soon, seeing as /a/ is filled with nothing but K-On!! threads (though a MANLY mod is actually banning all the K-On!! fans) and /v/ is slowly becoming /b/ junior.

The cake is a lie is in reference to the vidya game Portal. In the game, you're a test subject that needs to get from Point A to Point B using a weapon called the Portal Gun, which makes portals hence the name. The science picture uses portals. You're guided by a computer named GLaDOS, who keeps saying that after the experiment, there will be cake. Sorta as a motivational thing.

Further in the game, you see grafitti on some walls made from past test subjects that says "the cake is a lie", which is where it came from. You really need to play Portal to actually get the cake is a lie joke.

While I'm mentioning games, you may want to see /v/'s recommended games wiki if you're looking to get your hands on some more games (beware, there are one or two swears about there) <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    07:30, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * "Q: The President has lost some female support. How can the White House get those women voters back?


 * A: I reccomend the use of Old Spice products in the White House. After-hours and Swagger are a few of my favourites. And from now on, President Obama should only be seen in a towel. Also, instead of opening a speech with "My Fellow Americans", try "Hello Ladies" and ending with *points at abs* "Presidential Ab Point!". An if all else fails..... *Holds up a monacle to his eye, and grins* "MONACLE SMILE!""


 * I see you have discovered the wonders of the old spice ads. Good for you. I reccomend checking out the youtube channel. --<font face="Stencil" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">Fearr caorach |<font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span title="Yeah, this is mah talk page">The sheep is reported to be heavily armed and should be avoided  [[File:Crazy_sheep.gif]] (<span title="More importantly, what I did">LOOK WHAT HE DID! ) 08:55, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

COC
Why did you delete it? It doesn't make any sense at all!

<span title="I'M A BANANA, I'M A BANANA, I'M A BANANA, LOOKIT ME MOVE!"> <span title="TALLESTS! HEY! MY TALLESTS!"> Rocket Slug, User of DOOM  <span title="You gonna make biscuits?">IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL WORKING WITH YOU GIR, NOW SELF-DESTRUCT.

Hi.
This wiki is awesome, it just needs a little more...mmmmm.....Hero 108 Online. (lol,morshu)-- 12yz12ab  Talk to me  Edits Contribs 19:00, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
I don't do personal army requests (meaning, I'm not going to run around and fight your battles for you). The only "trolling" you'll ever see from me is griefing online games. Occasionally I might join in raids if they tickle my funny bone - I participated in the exploitation of Youtube on Independence Day (not going to say hacking because it was not; rather, exploiting a bug on Youtube's website). I tip my hat off to Anonymous at some raids they pull, but with the current /b/ threads about either "WAAAAAH I MISS THE OLD /b/", or "rate me plz adsl aim msn?" or anything else, tis a bore.

As for IATW, I could care less about what they do simply because they're targeting the Club Penguin fanbase. I don't oppose this at all because I've seen the "famous penguins" and many of them have their head jammed that far up their butt the view is like the Grand Canyon. People who want attention will always get attention, but its not going to be the attention they intended. The difference between me and you is that you strongly uphold morals, whereas I hold immense amounts of apathy towards people getting death threats / free pizza at their house etc. I cannot feel sympathetic towards people that single themselves out and make themselves a human target.

Besides, I have more important things to do i.e. finish the policies, pre-make Christma- presents, and other things then to do /b/-related garbage :3 <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    19:43, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Not at all, I try to enlighten when I can :P <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    20:07, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

A MESSAGE FOR TURTLESHROOM!
I spent alot of time on my Mister Lovesfisharticle and you edited it ALOT! So i would ask if you could PLEASE change it back.

EDIT:Actually i like your ideas :P. But can you change the Mister to Mr in the name? kthxbai

I knew that would happen. =P  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">Your citations are clearly broken!  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   21:28, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Why can't it be "CandyLand" instead of "Candy Land"? --<font face="Calibri" color="green">I am a Mons † er!. <font face="Calibri">[http://youtube.com/user/Childpengu1 Shoot him Ellis! Shoot him!!!] [http://clubpenguinfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Childpengu1 MABEL'S ANGRY! OH NOES!] (Ninjinian will slap her, of course) 03:21, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Promotion.
MY TURTLESHROOM! MY ALMIGHTY EPIK TURTLESHROOM!

Xet: What a bad excuse for a parody.

Me: So are you, Xet.

Sorry for the beginning comedy, just had to get your attention. MY TS!

So, like the headline sez, I DESERVE A PROMOTION. I've been here for almost a hear, have 1,138 edits as of now, I've only been blocked once and was cool with it, didn't freak, didn't question, it was one day for three-reverting, I don't swear at all, I respect you (MY ALMIGHTY TURTLESHROOM) and teh other almighties (IT'S NOT A WORD, ITBURRRRRRRRRNS), I've never questioned your awesomeness and I think I really deserve it.

So, will you consider it? I've worked so hard for the promotion and if I don't get it (now I'm not demanding when I say this), I'll be heartbroken, and maybe even QUIT!

Please, please, think it through, sleep on it if needed, and I hope I get it.

 Yours Truly with a side of Nachos,   Rocket Slug wants Pie. ( <span title="Talk to me or I will CLOBBAH DAT DERE KIRBEH!">You gonna make BISCUITS?!?  )

RE:RE:Promotion
Locked!

Darn.

 Yours Truly with a side of Nachos,   Rocket Slug wants Pie. ( <span title="Talk to me or I will CLOBBAH DAT DERE KIRBEH!">You gonna make BISCUITS?!?  )

Also, I can't fix this glitch; why is everything I type with my sig so SMALL?

Fin
Do u believe the world will end on 2012?

'scuse me
I understand you putting RS in DP's 'stead, but what did DP say that was so bad? --   Pyro       <span title="TALK, COWARDS!.">Spy sappin' mah sentry!   <span title="WHAT HAVE I DONE?!.">sentry down!  13:03, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

...
Why'd you promote Rocket Slug on whim? We all have to go through the RfA and see if the people agree. I'm not jealous or anything that, but it's kinda...weird. Just wondering. --<font color="blue" face="Comic Sans MS">Austin8310 -<font color="darkblue" face="Comic Sans MS">YOU MAGGOTS! -<font color="blue" face="Comic Sans MS">Private Eastshield 18:17, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Any help?
I wondered if ya watched that old sonic show "Adventures of Sonic the Hegdehog" I might want some help with the episode list, this way I'll get the parody perfect (adventures of Tails6000 :P) and BTW should I made the parody of sonic sez or not? I only added the Tails Tellz before I made sure of this... Tails 6000  18:28, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

This whole deal with the stuff
Since I could barely get a full message out on the shoutbox, I'll tell you here. I am a Turtlenator. Yes, I may have voted for the opposition, but I was soon to be come an admin and thought it was right.

I was wrong.

The idea ZK had in mind was, in my opinion, to scrap all this technical stuff and just have a clean, honest ruling and controlled system. Unfortunatly, it backfired, meaning all the people who were led into seeing a brand new idea were against you. And to make it worse, it was by Z K, so it had to be good, apparently. Now I see what it was. It may have been helpful, but look what it's created! You're on the verge of insanity with this whilst Z K can just kick back and insult you. It's also dissolved this wiki's year long plan to become a full democracy. I will do my best as an admin AND as a loyal turtlenator to stop this all and just restore what we had. I mean, it was much simpler, and to be honest only 1 person complained and now he's insulting you!

So, I am on your side. I hope somehow I can help to overcoming this storm of annoyingness and MADNESS and just get on with editing.

Yours,

--   Pyro       <span title="TALK, COWARDS!.">Spy sappin' mah sentry!   <span title="WHAT HAVE I DONE?!.">sentry down!  18:44, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Y'know, I find it extremely cute how when you take stabs at me behind my back its perfectly okay, but when I do the same thing towards you -- I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DID THAT WHY U DO DIS? Grow a spine.

And its not persuasion, contrary to what you've been mouthing off to everyone I actually care a whole lot for this site. I'm NOT trying to "destabilize" the wiki, I'm NOT doing this for power or anything for my own personal gain, all I'm trying to do is make it fair for all users ranging from the bureaucrat to the normal joe sixpacks. Of all people, I thought you'd support it.

I've lost your respect eh? Too bad for you, your respect means nothing to me. I lost my respect for you the instant you came out with "my goal is to fearmonger the Masses with my opinions". Oh boy, I can think of a nice word for that; terrorism! Because that's essentially what terrorism is - forcing people to do what you want and fuelling it with fear.

What I'm really disappointed at is how blind I've been all this time. You see, I thought that a "crisis" was all of the administrators going over-the-top and inciting fear into the userbase just because of say, one small vandalism. I was wrong about that. Its not all the administrators making a crisis, you're the CREATOR of a crisis. You are the sole person who has been inciting fear into other users, you are the only person who would throw up a storm over someone vandalizing, you are the only person who I can think of who came up with the crisis term in the first place.

And trust me, if you want a "war", you got it. You've opened up Pandora's Box mate. <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    19:10, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Change (and the reply you made)
Then DON'T destroy your reputation. Seriously. You said it yourself. No insane actions, trying to revert the "coup", etc.

The way I see it, the site went through the change pretty smoothly. Now it's being destabilized. Why? Because you're trying to revert it back. That causes opposition. Opposition causes arguments. Arguments cause tension. Tension causes a bad atmosphere. A bad atmosphere causes deterioration of the site, complete or incomplete.

No, this isn't a personal attack. I still think you're brilliant, creative, and productive. But why destroy your reputation? The users still like you, and you can still do the site good through your efforts. Just because you have difficulty adjusting to consensus doesn't mean you have turn the site upside-down. That kind of ruins it for everyone else. They just got settled into a new system, and then the whole thing is thrown on its head. That makes them dislike you, which puts you in an even worse situation.

Can't you just take a break and come up with another brilliant idea? Listening to you explain your ideas, articles, and plots is enjoyable, and that's what the wiki was meant for. It depresses me to see you and ZK battle it out over the stinkin' governing system, as well as this lull in activity. None of this helps the site.

You don't have to listen to me, but thanks for at least reading this.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">FLYING KICKAPOW!  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   19:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

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That's what I anticipate every day. Your MAINSPACE edits.

And not:

I have done PLENTY for the CPFW, ZK. TWELVE THOUSAND EDITS is certainly not doing anything for that site! Furthermore, I thought you were above making those stupid incest jokes! I guess I was WRONG about that! I don't even BELIEVE in the 2012 scenario, I just know doom when I see it!

If you haven't noticed, I've been less and less active here, and I really have trouble typing in this site's address because of what you've done. Like me, you are charismatic and extremely good at manipulating the Masses. They supported you for the same reason they supported my long speeches: we're very good at persuasion.

Now, I still can't believe how you just bashed and swore at me behind my back, yet complain about what I have said behind yours.

I am fully convinced now that you want to see me defeated. You want to see me demoted and thrown out like they did in the CPW. Yes, I have gone crazy in the past over this, but for good reason: this is a coup! I was right all along, and now, I'm going to do all I can to reverse this madness.

You'll regret the day you swore at me like that, ZK. Share this with your Un-CP goons if you wish, slander my name on there if that is your desire, but remember that I once respected you highly. I can't do that anymore.

-TurtleShroom

....  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">FLYING KICKAPOW!  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   19:47, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
This is all about reputation, is it? TS, you won't lose your reputation in the new policies. I can't see how they interfere with a "reputation". Policies, rules, and the like don't dictate to what your reputation is. The only thing that can change your reputation, is yourself.

You are a man that is known for his productivity and his superb writing skills. However, if you keep doing what you're doing by blowing your top at the littlest of things, and claiming the wiki is going to die, then yes ultimately you will be known as "the crazy guy".

Pfft, I've probably used my reputation as toilet paper numerous times but I don't care about my rep. I'm not in this for glory, reputation, pride or anything. I don't even care if I have supporters or not. The only main goal I have for this site is to make the entire userbase happy and stable -- yes that includes you TS. As long as I can achieve this, then I could care less about my reputation, or what other people think of me.

I don't hate anyone here, and the only reason I said those things on UNCP is because I caught wind that you were saying stuff behind my back. Sorry, but that's just my pet hate. Also, your terrorism logic is like me saying "9/11 was a good thing because the plane was a "twisted way to help" the building structure of the two towers." (not trying to offend anyone by using that as an example - god rest those poor souls who died)

Now I have a new aim, along with making the entire userbase happy. That new aim, is to get you to be more cool, calm, and collected when things you don't like rise up. Just take a deep breath if a vandal comes along - it won't be the end of the world. You can simply revert, block, ignore it. Another thing too; don't incite fear into people, because you're going to give yourself more stress. If something you think bad shows up, then talk to me about it and we'll reach consensus. The truth is, every single thing in life changes every day. Some changes, we welcome, others, we hate but nobody can escape that. Whether change is good or bad, you need to be able to accept it to truly enjoy life.

Please forgive me as I am going to play several violent games now. I hate sounding mushy and/or cheesy. <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    19:57, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

A Proposal
I had an idea. I can be, in essence, your emissary. I'll carry your discussion with ZK back and forth, copying your message, editing it, and then posting it on ZK's talk (and vice versa). Why the need for an emissary?


 * 1 -- Your replies may contain some lulz-triggering messages that may make ZK troll you. I'll do my best to edit those out without diminishing or altering the essence or concept of the reply.
 * 2 -- ZK's replies may contain some personal attacks on you. I'll do my best to edit those out, again without diminishing or altering the essence or concept of the reply.

Tell me what you think.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">FLYING KICKAPOW!  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   20:08, August 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * P.S. I'm not even going to bother to post this on ZK's talk. Big Brother Zone is always watching.

So am I. --<font face="Stencil" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">Fearr caorach |<font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span title="Yeah, this is mah talk page">The sheep is reported to be heavily armed and should be avoided   (<span title="More importantly, what I did">LOOK WHAT HE DID! ) 20:12, August 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's MY ability! -- † TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †    :)  :)  This signature is now DIAMONDS. <span title="PRAISE THE LAWD!">      †     1 <span title="MOOSEY FATE!"> - 2   <span title="-AND CAN I GET A HOT TUB!!">    †     I like editings the wiki.  <span style="color: white !important;"><span title="AH HEH HEH HEH HEH! IT'S PROFESSOR LEEBSTRUM!!">  –    –  20:55, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Random, out of season comment
Around Christmas time, I forgot to mention to you how my family and I got a kick out of your "Twelve Pains of Christmas- Christmas Edition" video. We all laughed 'til our sides split, especially my younger brothers (whom are also autistic)! :D

The only reason I'm telling you now is 'cuz my sister mentioned it, plus the holidays were busy. Nice job on it!

Hat Pop 21:32, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Shipping
LOL<, I SAW YOUR SHIPPING thing. Sorry bout the caps there. Anyways, whatever cartoon or game, or book, you look at, you will find shipping. The POKEMON Anime has millions of shipping. Misty and Ash. Brock and Misty(0_0). Ash and May. Prof Oak and Ash;s Mom. It has a lot of shipping. Seriouly. I even saw a Seasame Street shipping story. Zelda has a bunch, and what really scares me, is that Super Smash Brs brawl has a lot. I mean, I saw a Zelda and Meta Knight one!

Anyways. just sayin. You'll find them everywhere, but don't be afraid of them. Hardly any of them are canon, the only canon ones I know is Aang and Katara. So yeah.

HF Signing Off. Like this. Cause my siggy is broken.

Not to be insulting, but...
How dare you?

you have been angered by Dancing Penguin in recent times.

Did I read that right? You're calling me, the one who has been angered by DP, to order his demotion. That's not on, mate. Taking advantage of feelings will not get you in a good spot with me. Now, to business.

Look, I've read what he wrote and your rebuttal. I can't order his demotion until he's spammed a site or something. I can do nothing. I know you're unhappy. ZK has taken over, the COC is gone and so is your precious Constitution. You've basically lost your power.

You're a good person, TS. You're not evil or a walrus or anything. Don't disappear forever because you've been kicked out of two kingdoms. You're still a great editor, and a good man. Stay here, cherish and assist the site through its most vulnerable time. As sarcastic as it may sound, we need you.

Give TSP a happy ending for once.--Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS- The fez is now cool. 11:17, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Some stuff that might cheer you up
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHRsPWENVeY Spring Breeze Credits! Pretty cheery.]

More Spring Breeze Credits!

And my new sig.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">Turtle King, Propeller Lord. Together they dominate the universe.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   17:51, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

DP.
TS, I saw your message to Kwiksilver, and although your right about demoting DP, you have to be your own man. You got to grow a gut, and do stuff yourself. If I was a b-crat, I would demote DP, but this is your fight. DP just comes here to demote people and find something to troll us about. Take the step TS.

--HF

Austin and Explorer
Hello TS,

I feel that Austin8310 and Explorer 767 were cyber bullying me. I logged on just in time to see them on the chat box talking about me behind my back. They were saying things like "Dan shouldn't be an admin" and "He has almost no edits". I feel hurt and hope you can do something about them. Here is proof:

Please do something,

Thank you,

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 18:48, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Hey TS, That was only what I could get pics of, they tried getting rid of the evidence. Could you still talk to them? I'm trying to type on a iTouch.

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 20:24, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Thank you! I really appreciate that! I'm just worried that Explorer will demote me when you aren't on. He really scares me....

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 22:37, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hey TurtleShroom
Hey TS, have you seen the picture of my computer which I have taken? Please tell me if you like it or not. -- Sk8r blus  cat  23:34, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

That's not a screen port, that's a hard drive! :P -- Sk8r blus  cat  23:42, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hey TS, which OS do you use on your computer? I am guessing that you use Windows 7, but please tell me which OS it is. By the way, cool background. -- Sk8r blus  cat  00:05, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I have Windows 7 on my computer, dual booting with Windows XP Pro SP3.

Antican's being used for keeping trade secrets
That is an AWESOME idea. One problem -- I haven't worked out the vocabulary yet. The grammar and alphabet are mostly completed, however, so we could try using a variation of Antican that's modified to accommodate English words. We can borrow a few IPA notations, as well. The only problem is that a cipher would be too easy to break, and changing Antican over and over again would be rather difficult (we COULD try alternating vowel markings and grammar rules).  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">Turtle King, Propeller Lord. Together they dominate the universe.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   02:19, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
No problem, I like to help. Sneaky move removing the link to the use common sense policy on my blog post though. What, did you honestly think I would not notice? :3

Not trying to be rude or anything, but I really would like to know why you keep removing links to the policies. You've done it multiple times on the main page, the maintop template, pretty much anywhere that references it. I want a reason for this, because you usually do edits in good faith. However, I've yet to understand why. <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    07:33, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Just because you hate seeing it does not give you the right to remove anything linking to it. We will be getting new users coming in off and on, and if you keep removing the policy links because you "don't like seeing them", then that's going to make the situation a whole lot worse because new users will instantly think that this place has no rules and they can do as they please. Vandalism, swearing, you name it.

Now I'll address your concerns, and try to reach consensus;


 * Snowball clause? I'll agree to that, since I'm living proof. Destroying the COC didn't stand a snowball's chance in a fire but I pulled it off. Destroying the court house didn't stand a snowball's chance in a fire but Bugzy pulled it off. It's gone.
 * FYI, the Magma Puffle picture is a joke. You're supposed to say "Ha ha" when a joke appears.


 * The Neutral Point of View policy was scrapped; it was replaced with the Sue Policy. I realized later on that there can't be a neutral point of view here simply because this is fanfiction and the stories are usually in favor of the protagonist - I was just too lazy to remove it. Next time I do a policy sweep, I'll get rid of it.


 * Images can be uploaded from Photobucket. Just upload the picture into an album and copy/paste the Direct URL into Wikia. Why do you think that Sulu picture I posted on User blog:Flywish/Crazy Story Idea does not have a file? That's because I uploaded it to Photobucket. You seemed to be anti-spam because you deleted a Darth Vader pic I uploaded, so I thought of an alternative route and used Photobucket.
 * People are still free to display whatever they want on this wiki, its just that if its not fanon related it goes. Anything non-fanon related can use Photobucket to upload the pictures there, then have a link to them here. The picture does show on the site too.


 * I say the site isn't governed because it simply isn't. There is no higher power here anymore because all editors are equal. Everyone on this whole entire site has a chance to have their say - people just put their argument forward, others respond to it, and people try to reach a compromise. Ninjinian has done this ever since the consensus system was introduced, and I'm planning to make him my sucessor once I take inactivity in a week's time.

However, not governed and not cabal are basically the same thing, so I'll let it slide.


 * There is an example of UCS (Use Common Sense) on the UCS policy page. It gives an example what is considered UCS, and what is not considered UCS.


 * COMMUNICATE AS TO WHY YOU DON'T LIKE THE POLICIES! You will not get punished for speaking your opinion. You're encouraged to be bold. Anyone that bans or punishes anyone simply because someone's opinion is different from theirs will have me to deal with.

As for the picture you gave me, I get what you're trying to say, its just that I don't think I'd look good in pigtails =P <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    22:18, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

VOTE FRAUD!
Look at this,

Explorer deleted a vote for me just because he doesn't want me to be a bureaucrat! Please do something about him! He will do anything to stop me from becoming a b-crat, even resorting to fraud.

Please do something,

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 22:33, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

That is the most biased, presumptive, nonsensical garbage I've ever heard. I was just removing a vote because it didn't make sense -- "He even went to my DJ station!" No offense, Jsudsu, but going to a DJ station doesn't qualify someone for b-cat. Anyhow, Dan is too concerned about his power to think straight. I'm not going to try to stop him if the votes are in, but this "electoral fraud" crap is just stupidity.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">Turtle King, Propeller Lord. Together they dominate the universe.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   01:13, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!!!!!
THANK YOU! YOUR MOST AWESOME T-SHROOM! Thank you for promoting me!

Thank You!!!!

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 10:40, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Austin8310
He blocked me for no reason. Please do something about him.



Thanks,

--<font color=Blue>Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 13:21, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lets Reach Consensus
You claim that you have no way of expressing your opinion, right? Allow me to give you a way :3

I will be as specific as I can;


 * Read all of the current Policies
 * Do not edit them, send me a draft of what policies you want changed, and what you would write in them
 * Once you've sent them to me, I will agree on some changes, but I will also disagree on some changes.
 * When you've seen that I have disagreed on a policy, then you will try to make a compromise with me.

I'm giving you a route to alter the policies, however bear in mind that you won't be the only one who wants to make alterations. The current policies aren't even complete, and I'm just making a rough draft. Once all policies are completed, then a consensus will undergo with all users. The final, official policies will be decided once all users reach and agree to a consensus.

Since I am giving you a route, I want you to do something for me. That is, stop removing everything that links to the policies. If someone mentions policies on your talk page and you want to remove the link, that's fine by me, but editing MediaWiki files, templates, and the main page just to purge every single thing that links to the policies is not on mate.

Also, I appreciate the OOC correctness you did to Tales of Phantasm, however, I must remove some things you put in. For one, the prologue no longer has any mystery behind it. Two, you removed one sentance that had a religious reference in it - which, going by that logic you might as well delete your signature, delete the christian template etc. Three, the pregnancy joke was just a well... joke. It doesn't really go beyond into PG because several PG-rated material have made jokes on a similar level to that in the past. Futurama is a PG-rated TV show, and it makes references like that all the time. Even the Lion King has made a somewhat related joke; they parodized Hitler's March when Scar was singing that "Be Prepared" song. The joke isn't out of hate; its just Zone being a smart aleck :3

Anyway, please do send me your policy draft and I'll see what I can do. <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    15:42, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
But I need to link them across the wiki so that other people know about them. I won't link them on your talk page though.

Anywise, I really don't see why I should be feared as I'm usually pretty docile and laid back. I like getting challenged, especially seeing as most of the time I am challenged, it usually benefits the wiki. Like I've said time and time again, I'm not trying to destroy the wiki. Rather, improve it.

Now then;


 * Romantic Sue isn't illegal. They're perfectly fine to have as long as they don't have Mary Sue tendancies. Yandere however, is a person (usually female) romantically obsessed with someone to the point of using violent means to get them in their arms. Often seen with a sharp weapon and a psychotic grin. Examples of yandere characters are Ryuuguu Rena from Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni and Rolo Lamperouge from Code Geass.
 * I disagree with that. By making an article about a troll, you are giving it more reason to attack here. However, I'll agree to the merge just so long as the storybook is scrapped.
 * We can rename gaming the system to whatever you please. However, it needs to be active because though I personally never knew the man, I've read about his contributions, and what AG was doing was gaming the system. That is, using policies in bad faith and completely disregarding their true intentions. There are other people like that out there you know.
 * Nope, Wiki-lawyering and Filibustering will stay. If you want wiki-lawyering, then resurrect the court house but I'll warn you; once he finds out that the court house has been re-established, Bugzy will most certainly come thundering down here like the fist of the north star and remove it again.
 * Filibustering is pointless. Harping on and on doesn't get people to pay attention, and they will most likely ignore it and just nod their head in agreement going "Yes sir, yes sir, 3 bags full sir". Keep it short, simple, and straight to the point.
 * Three-revert-rule is in place to stop edit warring. There are cases in which the three-revert-rule can be disregarded however, such as vandal cases.
 * Yes, I'm well aware there are those who don't come here in good faith. However, unless they blatantly violate the policies I'm not going to stop them speaking their mind. You can't assume that everyone who comes onto this wiki is automatically a bad person out to destroy the wiki, because you'll only end up with a wiki of one. This wiki does have a reputation, and its not a good one either. I've seen CPFW been referred to as "the friendly butt of every joke on Wikia" several times. Unless there is conclusive evidence to the contrary, always assume that an editor's actions were an attempt to improve the wiki.
 * Oh, vandals are pretty easy to spot out. If someone has say, blanked a page or done vandalism on one article, then depending on the content of what he/she has put in jurisdicts what should happen with said user. If a page has swearing in it, then yes I will block but not "FOR ALL ETERNITY" because that's just ridiculous. If someone does it on multiple articles, then yes that is a vandal and yes he/she will be blocked for all eternity. People with the true intention of vandalizing follow a set pattern unlike those who don't intend to vandalize. Long story short: Those who don't intend to vandalize only vandalize one article, those who do intend to vandalize multiple articles.
 * The That's Death code still stands, along with the OOC policy. I plan to merge them into my policies.
 * Some things can't be consensused simply because some people refuse to uphold a consensus.
 * Snowball clause has already been deleted.
 * Oh yes it will. Good faith will be extended to "previous evils" simply because people change all the time. You extended good faith to me when I vandalized this place to kingdom come, so why shouldn't other people get that same treatment too?
 * No, you're just going by assumptions again. I've seen those "gullible" cases before. You did it with Ben Hun too. You extended good faith to him, then tossed him aside when the heat went on because you thought it would damage your "reputation" no?
 * Yes, yes, alright. You can keep cabal in Club Penguin Fanon Wiki is not.
 * Like I said earlier, anything image related not related to fanon must be uploaded via photobucket and then linked to here. It shows the full picture and its not just a link either. Anything fanon related may be uploaded to here, but anything else goes the photobucket route.
 * There are debates some people don't like, but that doesn't give them an excuse to delete them. That's part of life; being able to deal with things you don't like. If the community as a whole doesn't like a debate then it gets deleted, but if one or two people don't like it then they can simply put their disagreement in the debate. Debates are not going to be deleted just because a few select people don't like them. What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander.
 * There is nothing to coup, so I dunno what you mean by that.
 * All article deletion routes go the same way they did prior before the COC was removed. Speedy deletion, means delete as soon as you see that template. Deletion, means voting on whether or not an article should be deleted.
 * Off-site elements aren't illegal. Strict wiki business stays on the wiki though, because not everyone goes on the forums and the IRC.
 * Which is one of the main factors why we're discussing changes to the policy. If you want uniqueness, that's fine by me as long as it incorporates my vision. Besides, I thought you were all for political correctness? You seem to hold a strong dislike towards Tales of Phantasm.
 * Yes, they do need their own pages. Bots need to follow a set of guidelines to ensure that they don't end up being programmed to do the wrong thing. Ownership needs its own page too, because contrary to belief, nobody owns their articles. Redirects and protection need their own policies as well so that there are guidelines on what should and should not be redirected. Same goes with protection, because initiating a site-wide protection does indeed affect the wiki.
 * There is an OOC policy. Explorer's OOC policy will be implemented.
 * Snowball clause is gone, don't delete discussions stays. The reason for that is because I've clearly outlined why it should be policy within the page. No, I could care less if Wiki-lawyering and filibustering are your "core methods of debate". Wiki-lawyering starts flame wars (see: Court House), filibustering means that people won't read what you've said so they'll just nod in agreement and not know what they are agreeing to.

I look forward to your reply. <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    05:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Image Request from Flystar
Hey TS. I was wondering if you could make an image of the Star Beast for me. Just picture a huge monster (non-penguin like) that has an orange aura around it. If you need more details, just contact me at my talk page. Hope you can make the image!-- Fly star Hope you have a great day!  14:01, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Its not a method of silencing you, its a method that prevents everyone from ranting on and on and on and on. I saw 14,038 words on my talk page so I automatically assumed ohboyherewegoagain.jpg

I'll try to sum this as short as I can;


 * Another example of yandere. I didn't think yandere articles were allowed here but if you insist then I'll allow it.


 * Either Dont feed the trolls merges with RBIS (with the removal of storybook) or nothing. Making an article about a troll whether it be neutral or biased or whatever point of view is feeding the troll. Ignore a troll completely. I saw the RBIS when I was vandalizing this place and I secretly wanted a story written on me.


 * I am trying to cater for the whole wikibase, not just you. I'm not banning filibustering just because it'll cause someone to lose, I'm banning it because most people don't even bother to read it. Wiki-lawyering? Last time I checked, wikia is not a court.
 * And yes, I have been tempted numerous times to "legislate you out". This was mainly due to your vandalism. One time, I came so close as to writing a friendly email to wikia to discuss your fate on this wiki, but I willpowered myself not to. You should be thankful; I can take a whole lot of crap, but a man can only take so much.


 * 3RR (three revert rule) prevents edit wars. If someone reverts an article more than three times, an admin comes in and deals with it. If an admin is the one reverting an article, an admin that was not involved cleans it up.


 * Since this isn't Club Penguin itself, new users may get the intention that people can swear on here. Three day block on the first swear, one week if the user decides to come back and swear again, and then infinity if done a third time.


 * Its true, extending good faith to previously banned people may cause them to see it as a way to go back to their previous ways. However, you can't assume all people are like that.
 * Though I try to respect all beliefs, religion seems to be a real touchy subject 'round here so I shan't be putting those into policies.


 * That's just my view on the whole "gullibility" subject. You don't need to treat it as fact.


 * That's why I plan to make a photobucket guide on the images and media policy. Complete with screenshots and everything.


 * Disney won't be discussed in mainspace because its irrelevant and does not relate to articles. It may or may not get discussed on the shoutbox, but I don't know about that because I'm not in control of people's opinions.


 * Indeed I did, but the current policies do not have a higher order (government etc.) so there is nothing to coup. The policies can always be altered if a consensus is reached.


 * You support censorship and decency? Congratulations, you just defined political correctness.
 * If something as dark as Photon was allowed, then I pretty much took a risk and went with Tales of Phantasm. Zone put it bluntly; he was technically pregnant. However, since he doesn't have female reproductive organs Raziel's only option was to rip out of him. Still, I'm completely fine with you trying to correct medical inaccuracies and OOC.
 * While we're at it, why not have a free spoiler of Tales of Phantasm? Highlight the black bar if you want to find out what happens, but if you don't want the story to be spoiled, then don't do it; Raziel deletes Zone because Zone is weak and he thinks he should succeed him, everyone finds out what Zone's true intentions were, everyone hates Raziel, Kill swears vendetta against him, and lo and behold a new villain in the database.

Of course, that would make Photon obselete, but I plan to delete him anyway. This is a better way to kick off a new villain in my opinion.


 * Very well, consider the redirect and bot policies gone.


 * Yes, but they need to pass consensus before arguments and flame wars are resurrected and their demand would fail. Its not common sense, and I know that nearly all of the community will be against it.


 * You're intolerant of gay people? What's wrong with them? I don't swing that way, but if they enjoy their lives then I say go for it. You don't seem to like it when people discrimminate you because of your beliefs, so don't do it to others.
 * Which makes me wonder, what if a homosexual person came on this wiki as a user? If you or anyone belittled him for it then you'd be gone. Instantly. I don't care. If you want people to have respect for you, give respect back as well.


 * Flames and anything irrelevant to discussion would be deleted.


 * What you fail to understand is that builds up a reputation. Since our reputation is currently in shambles, that means that new users will not come here. If you want a growing userbase, you must take this into consideration. Word by mouth is an extremely powerful method of advertising, but its a double-edged sword. People can say positive things about a community, and new users will come. However, people can also say negative things about a community, which halts new user traffic.

*tips hat* <span style="border:1px solid #d21515; -moz-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:2em 0em 2em 0em; padding:1px 2px 1px 2px;"> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  <span style="-moz-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; -webkit-border-radius:0em 0em 2em 0em; background:#ed1c24;">  T   C   E    07:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

SWF thing for CPW?
Just what do you plan to bring to this? I noticed your name on the todo list in CPW. --Zapwire (dial the waaaambulance) 19:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Wall of Fame
Hey TS,

I was looking on the Wall of Fame and was wondering if I could be on it? I have been on this wiki for over a year, am a Bureaucrat, and created the CNIC.

Thanks,

--Anniemoose98 <span title="I'm a christian, are you?">Click teh linkz, CLICK THEM! CLICK THEM NAUGH! I didn't steal TS's signature! I borrowed it! (And maybe changed it a little...) <span title="I LIKE PI!!">     <span title="-AND CAN I GET A HOT TUB!!">   Hail teh Shroom!  15:48, August 18, 2010 (UTC)