Forum:Project Tern Vote

As you might know, there is a plan to move this entire wiki out of Wikia and onto our own domain and servers, sometime in late summer 2010. It's called Project Tern, and it will be initiated by Zapwire and Seahorseruler. However, in order to make sure the Masses approve of the move, there has to be a vote over it.

So lay your ballots down and decide the fate of this database! (Please put a reason why or your vote will be removed. All questions about Project Tern and/or the vote go on the talk.)

THIS SHALL NOT PASS!
Nice try. You can't pull that on us that easily. Project Tern has not passed. Let the people who haven't voted, ZK, Bugzy, TS, Explorer, WBD, Screw and others decide. We have till the end of july, as was said on the talk page. Just because we live in a different time zone doesn't mean we're obsolete. Let the Australians vote, we're members too.

Oh, and no reverting. Take a squiz at this, it's proof you can't close the voting.

"End of July Dancing Penguin 11:10, June 21, 2010 (UTC)"

Taken from the talk page. Vote now. It will change your life.--Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS- Haud secundus chances, EGO sum ut typus of vir.. 13:09, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just to remind you all
--Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 22:15, June 17, 2010 (UTC
 * There will most likely not be legal issues
 * Links shall be updated - we might even get you a big CPW ad on the moving week
 * Moving is stupidly easy
 * We still will be a wiki about CP fanon
 * Retcons and story editing fix everything
 * Seahorse pays for everything: you won't

BUT...
 * Exporting may take ages
 * We may lose previous revisions of stuff, edit counts, ect.
 * Wikia may care and try to stop us
 * There may be legal issues, there may not

--Fearr caorach |The sheep is reported to be heavily armed and should be avoided   (LOOK WHAT HE DID! ) 10:01, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

REMEMBER... --Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS- Haud secundus chances, EGO sum ut typus of vir.. 13:02, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * We will lose continuity in some of our best articles, they will become invalid. No more Director Benny. No more Wikia Catastrophe. No more Bureau of Fiction Wikia cannot be replaced, and I doubt the users here, not even motivated enough to save one LQA, will get off their lazy behinds and fix it.

For (10)

 * Mhmmm --Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 20:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please do it. I AM TIRED OF THIS OLD WIKIA I WANT THIS WIKI TO MOVE!-- 12yz12ab  Talk to me  Edits Contribs 15:10, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * COPPA is restraining us like a dog to a leash. We would get more Google Juice, as a .com (No wikia) gets higher placement I believe. More users can find us and join without being told "You can not join at this time". We can easily just call our selves CPF instead of CPFW and change all the instances we are called Wikia to something else. Perhaps, during a story, the shoutbox gets destroyed by a meteor and the BOF gets shut down, being forced to move the Universe elsewhere, without the shoutbox. --E-114 Message center  17:27, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * The pages will be transferred but usernames start from scratch, meaning you can have WHATEVER USERNAME YOU WANT! Yes, yes, 1 million times YES! -- Eternal Magma    Complaints ahoy!  17:56, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, Yes, Yes, what more can I say? This idea is amazing? --[[Image:Sk8itbotsig.jpg|200px]] 18:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool!  Yours PWNingly,  KingH10 ;^)   Life's confusing. My goal is to make it even more confusing.   My Blogs!  Play KingH10's Favourite Online Game! 07:47, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting. EDFan12345 Don't roast them! You gotta Flambé 'em! 13:00, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Heck yeah, who needs Wikia? HOWEVER-we HAVE TO HAVE something like a SHOUT BOX. --Austin8310 - HIYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAA!  15:40, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * We definately should break away from wikia, this way, people of all ages can join 19:22, June 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes  http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill    T   C   E    14:21, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Against (9)
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 * NO! COPPA is epic, and we will be sued into next week... --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 13:54, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I like Wikia. Its a hub for wikis. We won't get noticed if we are separated. A l e x 0 01   (eliminate my loneliness ⊘ respond to my annoucements ⊘
 * NO! NO! NO! NO! I can't stress this enough, WE CAN'T MOVE! We have heaps of articles and related links across the database to Wikia and Wikipedia alike, we have an army of staff, continuity, and convenience! Oh, the convenience of being able to breeze into a wikia and start editing randomly, with your own username and password instead of going through the hassle of logging in. We must not move. Period.--Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS- Haud secundus chances, EGO sum ut typus of vir.. 08:13, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Some articles depend on Wikia. 10:34, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Moving the wiki from WIKIA???? Now thats just maddening the unhelpful! It would take WEEKS to transfer all the articles! And besides wikia is awesome! It what the database was based upon! We cant move it!- ITS DANGEROUS TO GO ALONE!  TAKE THIS [[File:Kitteh Guardian.png]] <sup style="background-color:white; color:black;">  YOU RECEIVE KITTEH!  20:05, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikia exports the databse, and XML exports, and bots... It's easy, and easy to change. Plus we can install Qikia extensions on the new Wiki... have you people been reading eh notes at the top? --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 17:04, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Too many connections to Wikia in order to move. Many articles depend on being with Wikia in order to thrive. If you want to move, that would be wack. We have already gone strong for TWO years on Wikia, with only two major events involving COPPA. (in case you don't know of them, Happyface and Sk8rbluscat got blocked for being under 13) Most of our problems were flame wars that had to do with our users, but that had nothing to do with Wikia complaints. If you REALLY want to move out of Wikia, go right ahead, but you won't be impressing me, or 8 other users. I don't agree.-- Fly star  Hope you have a great day!  02:35, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * NO WAY. This Wiki should stay how it is. -- Swiss Ninja   - I place the Royal Seal on this page - 18:16, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * We would get sued, plus I doubt the court will care about a Club Penguin Fanon Wiki/ Iamred1   Talk this way.  05:59, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral (3)

 * I was reading the forum and came across one of Kwik's osts. Some of our articles depend on Wikia for continuity, like the Wikia Catastrophe, and basically anything related to the Fourth Wall and BoF. If we move out, the connection won't exactly be there anymore.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   13:58, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Retcon --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 14:16, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * That still wouldn't make much sense.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   14:19, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with Explorer. Also, we have w:c:clubpenguin links to cpw that wouldn't work outside of wikia <font color="#FF0000">Dancing <font color="#B22222">Penguin  14:47, June 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I want to vote yes but I like the shoutbox we have now and I've gotten very used to it - if anybody's got a better shoutbox suggestion please message me and I'll change my vote if I find it better. -- [[Image:N-Sig.PNG]]  ¤   (  User page! ) (  The Cookie Master, bow! ) 20:42, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * ON the subject, I don't really care enough- I just want to write. -- Screwball86 '''<sup style="color: blue;"> There's a croutan in my salad! 13:40, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

 * No, we won't be sued. Also, if the move doesn't happen in August, it will in December. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 14:16, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't you mean September? <font color="#FF0000">Dancing <font color="#B22222">Penguin  14:49, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the move I said would be in august, but if we can't make it in august, late december: that's vacation time for most.


 * I already pledged my support to the Diaspora. Besides, they promised me sweepingwers, FTP access, and more... you should read some of my talk pages for that. With us becoming independent, we could restructure our government to a better method without the Staff breathing down our necks because of "drama". Seahorse and friends state that most features (excluding the Monaco skin) could make the switch without a problem, and Wikia has to comply with us moving. Go ahead and ask them some more. Lastly, we can retroactive continuity the Wikia Castastrophe. What about the error being the site moving off from the Staff? Virus could be attempting to disrupt the move by taking all of Wikia down with us. -- † TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †    :)  :) We've got diem to carpe. † 21:25, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * COPPA cripples our growth. We can't get sued either: fair use. Since Sea is helping us, I think we can get you some big ads on CPW when we move. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 10:10, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Every company, person and country we have parodied would have every right to sue us. We used them without permission. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 10:17, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then explain why they haven't sued us NOW? A parody, under the US law, requires no permission from the author of the parodee whatsoever.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   12:39, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I Thik he thinks that because we're onwikia and COPPA helps us not get sued. However, by US law, parodies are protected by the law. In other countries it may not be (I didn't do much research) but the guys would have to track us down to sue us, and that would be too much trouble for them. Citcxirtcem   BAAAAAWW to me!  see my edits! 17:14, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * This site doesn't follow US law. One of my many "contacts" found that out. The reason we haven't been sued, is we have loads of Wikia lawyers to find clever loopholes for us. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 17:22, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why would laywers sue us anyways? They likely don't care. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 19:25, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind it being moved outside of Wikia, it would be a good move for our differences and discrepancies between CPW and CPFW, but I'm afraid it won't work out seeing as a lot of the stuff on this wiki relies on Wikia. And EternalMagma, wikis exists out of Wikia. --Tigernose Talk 17:52, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Where else did Wikipedia come from?  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767  http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (  <span title="If you want to talk to me, leave a message here.">No... you can't escape Benny.  )   <span title="Click if you dare!">View this template   18:42, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's why editing and extensions exist. Most Wikia extensions are open source, so most can be used, but a lot require a complete rewrite to use, mainly Monaco --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 19:25, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * eternal, we'll still be a wiki. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 22:13, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Source "The US Supreme Court recognizes parody as a protected form of free speech, and parodies are even given special rights under copyright law." <font face="vivaldi" color="#0000ff" size="2">EDFan12345 Don't roast them! You gotta Flambé 'em! 21:28, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * @ Explorer, its true:

Actually, this wiki is not under US law! An obscure term of use dictates that. --<font face="Chiller" color ="FFBA00"><span title="My page. No touchie!">ZE SHEEP! (<span title="IT'S A WEEGEE! RUN!">That sheep is staring at me ) 21:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

'''* For pete's sake, we can't move! Changing from Wikia means that all our continuity would become invalid, leading to a massive rewrite needed. We would also lose some of our best articles and best stories. We're not moving.--Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS- Haud secundus chances, EGO sum ut typus of vir.. 12:56, June 27, 2010 (UTC)'''


 * Not to mention, we'll loose the Wikia Catastrophe! I don't want to loose that. Anyway, I agree with Kwiksilver. -- Screwball86 '''<sup style="color: blue;"> There's a croutan in my salad! 14:34, June 27, 2010 (UTC)